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Hi Armin and Paul,
Maybe we can ask Ann in the next chat about this, I’m sure she has tips to differentiate between the two.
Thank you both of you for your input, it helps to clarify and check what we know (or think we know!)
Cheers,
AntoineHi Armin,
Do you have better results using the leg shao yang for the rotational movement in a seated position than the leg shao yin ?
From what I understand, the leg shaoyin is for rotation with a bend limb, so I’ll always assume than the seated position was fitting into this category.
If you have more insight on this it would be great.
Thank you,
AntoineHi Paul,
I didn’t have this presentation in my practice, but I’ll try my best. As the KI Sinew is not streching far on the abdomen, you could work there with the patients lying on their back, and then work on their back when they are lying on the abdomen. I would do this way if I encounter this case.
You could also inquire more about the location of pain. If they have pain on the lower abdomen when rotating, then you focus there. If it is on the spine, I think you can forget about the abdomen.
Also when needling the spine, I would go for the Hua Tuo points and working down along the KI Sinew.
Hope that helps,
AntoineHi Alina,
It would be nice to have a chat one day yes! here my email : [email protected] and my phone number 06.32.94.46.62
A bientôt !
AntoineHello Paul,
As far as I understand it, you first bleed the Luo point on the opposite side of the pulse and then if there is visible blood vessels on the opposite side, you bleed them. You can bleed the Luo point on this side too (the one related to the pulse).
Hope that helps
AntoineHello Alina,
For LU-5 you can think of it from the 5 elements theory, as it is the Water point on the LU channel thus having connection to the Kidneys. He-Sea points treat counterflow, so you may think in this way too (if Lung Qi cannot descend to the Kidneys, you may have asthma for instance). You may also find a resonance between the name and the Kidneys.
For diffusion, effusion it is quite the same as far as I understand it. The Lung is responsible for the circulation of Qi, of Wei Qi, and then you can call this action diffusion (moving from the interior to the exterior).
– LU-1 Zhong Fu : Middle Palace – you can translate as “things coming from the middle”, it may be more easy to understand. The middle here is the middle Jiao, the Stomach area. Wei Qi is produced from the turbid aspect of the thin fluids. So at LU-1 you have the connection between the Spleen channel to the Lung channel (SP-20 is just below). It may have been easily a Spleen point but they choose to give it to the Lung channel. As there is the connection from Spleen and Lung, you have something coming from the interior to the exterior, Tai Yin opens outwards.
– LU-7 Lie Que : you may think about it as a Luo point. Luo points connect the Ying and Wei level. So if you stimulate the points, you will move Qi to the exterior, therefore diffusing.
– LU-8 Jing Qu : it is the Metal point on the Lung channel, reinforcing the idea of one of the main function of the Lung to circulate Qi. Also as a Jing-River point, you think of it as releasing the chest, opening it (it treats cough, dyspnoea, chills and fever classicaly as a Jing-River).For the terms like diffusion, rectification etc, you’ll find them associated to specific points yes. But it is more the idea behind the terms that is important.
I hope that helps you, if you have any questions I’ll try to answer them ! 🙂
Are you working in France ? I live near Paris. I have heared about Laville Merry but I don’t know much about him!
Cheers!
AntoineHello Alina,
I’m also new to probing pulse, and still relatively new to CCM so I’ll try my best.
You can do Qi Gong and the pulse as Ann says in the course. But if you want to use needles, I would use :
– CV-12 and ST-25 if you want to descend LU Qi. It is the beginning and descending branch of the LU channel, you needle it with intention (via ST-25 it connects to the KI via Dai Mai). You may also use LU-5, and the metal point on the KI channel : KI-7.
– to diffuse LU Qi, I would use LU-1, LU-7 or LU-8.
– to move Blood I would look at LU-3 or LU-4, the points above the He-Sea have a connection to Blood (think harmonisation of Blood when doing a Luo treatment). Even LU-7, as a Luo may have and impact on Blood. Remember Qi moves Blood.I still get confused sometimes about how to apply treatment once you get the informations from the pulse, I guess it is a long road to get there ! 🙂
Hope that helps,
AntoineHello Rene,
Thank you for your answer. I thought about Dai Mai too, but didn’t venture in this territory. What makes me hesitate, it is the sense of lack of directionality from the pulse, especially on the right side. I wonder if this pulse is a Dai Mai one, or this could be indicating a lack of power from the middle burner to move and transform. I remember reading something about this specific pulse presentation and a weakness there, maybe in Ann’s pulse book.
I’ll look more into the Dai Mai with the pulse next time, and maybe try to work on it to see if it can help.
Cheers,
AntoineThanks for the precision, I would have gone DSD but I was curious to know if we could do otherwise. I got one minor healing crisis after a DSD treatment, a good remember that the body is always the last to choose!:)
Cheers,
AntoineHello Pamela and Kyle,
I’m not doing a lot of 8X, and definitely not pediatrics. I’m curious as well about this subject. Maybe you can find more informations in the book about pulse diagnosis, I know there is a chapter about the diagnosis of children. There is a lot informations, and not only about the pulse in this book!
Hello Monica,
Thank you for you answer. I’m currently watching the Divergent seminar from Jeffrey on ACCM, and it appears to me that as you said the 6th confluence may be the most appropriate in her case. I wonder though, would you use it DSD or SDS ? Because we don’t really want to bring pathogens into latency but if the patient doesn’t have the ressources to mount a defense we can exhaust her ?
I’ll see her before the end of the month, I’ll keep the case updated 🙂
Hope you’re well,
AntoineHi Rebecca,
I’m in Soissons (02200), depending where she is in Paris it could be 2 hours to drive here.
Hope that helps,
And happy new year !
AntoineHello Rebecca,
I live and work in France, but not in Paris. I can recommend a few practitioners, but they are not doing CCM. One is doing Japanese acupuncture.
Let me know if it can help.
AntoineHi Monica,
It’s truly amazing to witness these changes. Practising the complementary channels really reveals how everything is connected. And it gives tremendous hope for the patient when considering the ripple effect between inside and outside !
Again thank you for your support Monica 🙂
Cheers,
Antoine
