[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Pamela,

I would work simply using the Divergent DSD in her case. If she was under a very stressful period, mediumship had been depleted quite strongly. I would simply try to figure out where she is in the Divergent sequence and work to tonify the mediumship working backward towards BL/KI Divergent. She may not have the ressources to expel the pathogen, as the zonal treatment may be too complicated as there is eczema in a lot of zone. But I’m just beginning with the Divergent so wait for another answers 🙂
If you think the cause is really related to emotional causes, as the eruption during the therapy session, you may bleed the Luo. In the SI Luo you have skin eruptions in the symptoms, but you may have to work with some others.
Hope that help,
Let us know how it goes with this patient,
Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hi Monica,

Thanks for the precision. The last time I saw the patient I worked on the Luo channels, and bled Guang Ming and others luo points. I already did some work on them before, but las time with a more specific intention. And a funny thing happened. She took the decision to go for her mother’s company, to give it a try. In the next few days following the decision, she got 2 job offers in her field. She was quite surprised, and didn’t get why the offers come at this moment after she has taken this direction. But she’s going for what she has chosen. Life is quite mysterious sometimes 🙂

Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hi Paul,

I’m not really good at pulse directionality, but I’ll give it a try. So you’re looking for LV Qi and Blood ascending/nourishing the Heart on the left. Maybe it pops at the Chi position because the LV is really incapable of making this vector. This would participate in the fact the patient has still the need to take cocaine, as he is unable to find nourishment and grounding in himself. Anyways there is something going as a counterflow, and you may try to treat it to see how it affects the addiction.
I’m looking forwards for another view on this topic as well!
Hope that helps,
Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hi Monica,

Thanks for your detailed answer, the explanation regarding the symbolism of each points brings the use of it to another level.
Would you use each of these points according to their particular context or would you needle them together ? Let’s say if you use Guang Ming, do bleed it or needle ? On his own or in combination with Tong Zi Liao and/or Ben Shen ?

Thank you again,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Monica,

Thank you for your answer, it makes sense using both 8X. I didn’t think about the connection with the gut feeling related to the second trajectory of Chong, definitely something to consider from now on!
I feel that the Yin Wei will be more appropriate for her. She also suffers from insomnia regularly, and psoriasis. I guess by nourishing the Heart it will be beneficial on these issues as well.
Which points would you advice for helping to clarify a choice ?

Thank you again,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Anna and Monica,

Thank you Monica for your detailed answer, always really insightful ! For sure with this patient there is heat trapped into the Yangming. There is nothing on the tongue, only in the mouth. I’m treating her for psoriasis mainly, and I was curious about the range of effect of the LI Luo on the mouth area.

Anna, I happened to have a patient the past week with jaw pain for 15-20 years on the left side. With a feeling of something stuck, even when she is not opening the jaw. I saw her a month ago for acute low back pain, and perform a ST/GB/BL sinews treatment. When she came back last week, the back pain was mainly gone and she said that the jaw was much better for a few days. I guessed that the ST sinew had worked on the area. But I was curious about the LI Luo as we were talking about it. She mentioned having tooth pain when eating/drinking something cold sometimes. So I bled and moxa LI-6. She reported a very slight improvement but it was not enough. I also bled ST-40 and GB-37. The former because she has quite a lot of Heat and the ST pulse was full, and the latter because she has a lot of anger/frustration that she’s not expressing. The improvement was steady but slow. I then performed a ST sinew. She said that the area was really relaxed comparing to the beginning of the treatment. Maybe it can help to think about the leg Yang sinews as well.

Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Mònica,

According to your experience it is possible to use the LI Luo to treat canker sore ? Especially the recurrent ones ?
Thank you for your answer,
Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Anna,

I follow Paul’s idea about the teeth being a place of latency, and maybe the surgery affects this aspect. If you think about the Luo, I would not go directly to the transverse. The issue is related to the teeth and if we look at the longitudinal Luo, the Large Intestine is going there (teeth and ear). If you look in the red book, there is “acute deafness’ related to the Full LI Luo. It may be not tinnitus, but I would go there first to check if it has an effect as it is quite simple treatment to begin with. It may be a way to clear pathogen going there. Remember also that with surgery bruising will appear, and the LI Luo will move the Blood in the area.
I got a patient with a relative big bruise from the jaw to the neck following a tooth surgery, with pain in the area of the tooth. I bled LI-6 on the related side and the bruise was gone in the next days as well as the pain.
Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Paul,

Welcome on the forum !
I would say that the pulse you’re looking for is on the same position. It is not the same “lens” that you’re using when taking from the perspective of Sinews and the Divergent. So in you’re example if you want to check a change after doing a ST Divergent, you’re looking at the right guan position. Remember that the Divergent connects the Jing and Wei Level, and the Divergent pulse follows the one commonly associated with the organs. So the communication between the Jing and the Wei will take place at the same position.
Cheers,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hi Armin,

Thank you for the input, it seems to fit quite perfectly with her. I was reading back about the Wei Mai in the red book, and saw under the indications of Yin Wei Mai the stress about a disease running in the family, the anxiety of having it. Of course it something that she already has so it might be a different case, but I wonder if it could be useful in this presentation ? Anyways, if I had to choose I would have probably gone for the Yang Wei too.
Keep us informed about the outcome, I hope she will have all the quite amazing benefits of the 8X!
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hi Armin,

That’s amazing ! I definitely have to think more about the 8x, I’m not quite confortable using them. Anyways, it is wonderful the effects on her, going on hikes after one session of 8x is quite a step forwards!
What is your thoughts about the actions of the Yang Wei on her ? And did it affects the way she’s feeling about the accident ?
I was brainstorming a bit about this case, and I wonder about using the first trinity. As it is an issue running in the family, it seems appropriate. I would go for Chong Mai, the fourth trajectory or maybe the fifth ?
Thank you for sharing,
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Armin,

An interesting case indeed, and quite a difficult one. I wouldn’t needle into the scar area, but maybe as you have done stimulate the point with intention. I wonder also how to locate the point correctly, as they move quite a lot and the scar tissue can make the palpation difficult ?
What does she expect from the treatment ? Is it a release of the area where the scar tissue is the most problematic and working on the ankle ? Or does she want to be helped on the emotional part following the accident when she was 3 ?
I’m thinking also about the Wei Mai, to help accept the past and try to let go of it (oriented more towards the accident). I don’t know if working with the Sinew can avoid the next surgery, it would be a wonderful result!
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Anna,

I don’t have experiences with this condition, but it may be interesting to see if an empty Heart Luo treatment can help. In the symptoms of the empty Luo, there is speech difficulty. The Luo will also work on the emotional component of the trauma that she has suffered during her childhood. The tongue is related to the Heart, and the capacity to speak freely “from your Heart”. Maybe check if there is blood vessels on the trajectory and palpate for nodules. In this case you do the treatment on the opposite side where the HT pulse is located, therefore on the right arm.
Did she work with the speech therapist last year ? The same year she forgave her mother and grandmother ?
Hope that helps!
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Armin and Elizabeth,

Thank you for your answers, it is reassuring to read I’m not the only one having hard times sometimes figuring sinew diagnostic !
I’ll do more the movement assessment regarding the pain at night from now one, and see what results are found.

“When it comes to sitting, even though it feels like you are not moving, the muscles of the back are still holding you upright. This is considered an extension which would be tai yang (especially the bladder channel).”
I wonder if we can see also this as Yangming, because you have to support your weight ? I read in “Heart Shock”by Ross Rosen that people with deficiency in the KI/BL Sinew will tend to hunch forwards, which tends to support the idea of Taiyang as you said.

But if it is turning pain such as pubic symphasis pain, that pain is typically because a leg is crossing toward the midline. It actually hurts when one knee crosses over the other- even just slightly. If you keep your knees together and turn, it doesn’t hurt. So I would think more information might help.
Would you say it is a Shaoyin sinew in this case Elizabeth ?

Have a nice day!
Antoine

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Armin,

A difficult case indeed ! I would have been lost seing this patient.
From the divergent point of view, I would think of the Bladder and Kidney Divergent. They both go to the area locked up. But the main difficult here is to needle BL-10. Maybe you can try to work on them with essential oils ? It would be a good alternative, one she can carry home. And if the area is loosening up after your treatments, maybe you can try with needles.
Maybe Yang Qiao Mai can be useful, to release the “stance” in which she is locked up. To release the tension with the outside world, to be able to open to it again after the car accident.
Hope that can help you, and I think your approach and the one suggested by Elizabeth are and can be really helpful for her.
Cheers
Antoine

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