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Hi Lydie,
Thanks for sharing this case. I am just now reading this and wondered if you have an update for us. I love the luos, and my mind went straight to them.Does the patient have luo vessels, or maybe they have emptied? In any case, did you try using luo treatments? And if so, what happened? I’m not clear on what her reason for coming to you is; is the reason macular degeneration?
Ann told an incredible story in class once of a 23 year old who started having gray spots in her vision at her father’s funeral. (It was a sudden and unexpected death). Ann treated her with the HT luo, and it resolved on the table. Knowing this story & noticing HT luo vessels, I used the HT luo for a patient with a vision problem with great success, too, though it did not 100% resolve. There had been a line through her vision for over a year with no improvement or diagnosis from ophthalmologists, and at this time, she was growing restless in her job, questioning what she was doing, and wanting to start a creative business. Good luck, and let us hear what happens.
MG
Hey Elizabeth,
First, the pulse class is absolutely incredible, and I’d like to take it again as many times as possible; having said that, Ann’s description and directions on page 228 have been so helpful to me in the way that it is condensed to the basics. This is how I avoid getting “too mental” about it; I know I’ve said this before, but I honestly don’t “think” a whole lot about what’s going on with the patient unless they have pain, in which case I ask movement questions. I just leave it all to the pulse. Obviously, I could be wrong in my pulse taking–and there is SO MUCH more to learn–but I’ve just seen patients get really good results when I follow the pulse, whereas if I would have gone with my “thoughts”, the treatment may not have been as effective. So I just let go of the fact that I know so little, rely on the pulse, treat, and keep studying. I share this to encourage you to not doubt your ability. It’s a practice, and you can totally do this pulse taking!
If you’re not feeling the pulse at 15 beans, then you probably don’t have an 8x. (Also, I reference the red book ALL THE TIME in clinic, too).
Re: the failed sinew treatments, were you able to tonify all the deficiencies prior to doing the sinew treatment? If yes and to no avail, my “thoughts” would take me back to 8x:) But if not, make sure you get those tonified before you do another sinew, if you decide to go that route again.
Your note about constipation and incontinence made me think KD Luo. Does she have any vessels, etc around KD 4?
Thanks again for sharing!
Hello, Burton, & wow! That is an incredible example!
Not a liniment, but Golden Flower Chinese Herbs makes Trauma Formulas (1, 2, and I believe, 3), and I’ve found them to be helpful.
Hey Elizabeth! Thank you for sharing this case. Very interesting! I hesitate to chime in with this, since Ann responded re: the application of the sinews. While I see the application of the jueyin sinews, you mentioned a tight pulse that was deep in the guan or chi position. (There are really helpful pulse taking directions on 227/228 and also a great pulse cheat sheet in the red book:)). I was wondering if when you listen to her pulses again, if you could let us know if the deep pulse you were feeling was actually an 8x–either yin qiao mai (chi only) or yin wei mai (guan & chi).
Re: yin qiao mai, even though she presents outwardly as extremely motivated and a dedicated athlete–not what we might think of as yin qiao mai–could that excessive activity be resulting in damp restricting yang qi and the resulting paralysis be her body yelling at her to slow down? Low back pain, numbness, and back pain are possibilities with yin qiao.
Re: yin wei mai, the description of the channel also might not be a fit at first glance, but it does include the potential for low back pain, and there’s the anxiety components that sometimes accompanies a very dedicated athlete, as the exercise is what we love to do, not realizing it’s how we have been managing the anxiety–or maybe I’m just speaking from personal experience 🙂
Full disclosure: I find it very difficult to discern what channel to use without the pulse. 1) Possibly because I don’t have the knowledge or experience to operate otherwise, but 2) because almost any presentation could fall under any of the complement channels, but I feel like the pulse is the body’s voice and takes me out of the equation. Hope that makes sense.
I’d love to hear what you think, and please keep us updated. I’m late to the party, but this is really interesting and helpful! Best wishes!
