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Hello all,
Has anyone done an 8ev course with Ann? I know the needle retention time is 40 min for adults. Is it the same for children. I have a 4 year old with 2.5 year history of acid reflux, vomiting and medication. With primary channel treatments, she is off medication with overall improvement. There are some relapses here and there. When she gets too excited (she is super hyper already) and too many things are happening around her, she starts vomiting middle of the night around 3 or 4 in the morning and takes her a day or two to recover. These episodes are happening less frequently but I was thinking of using 1st trajectory of Chong, but retaining needles for 40 minutes will be a challenge with her. My usual sessions with her are 20 minutes or under.
Any ideas!?
Thank you,
ArminArmin, in the treatment of children, it will often suffice to vibrate the needle for as long as you can and withdraw it, so there’s technically no retention. I prefer to vibrate the needle for as long as possible, have the child watch the needling and then continue to watch the needle after I’ve let go of it. Very often the child will see the needle continuing to vibrate on its own, become fascinated by it and allow it to remain in for much longer. xoAnn
Hi Armin and Ann! I’ve got a pretty big pediatric practice and I’ve observed Ann do a couple of things with kids that I thought was pretty profound. The simplest and most impactful thing she does is her approach. I am certainly guilty of approaching young patients with the expectation that they will dislike the treatment and only be able to maintain focus for a short time. Ann approaches kids like she approaches anyone else, that the fact that they are there shows a desire for transformation and that there is an implicit consent in that. It’s always so important for me to remember that the spirit and the mind are often in conflict with one another. My experience with kids is that their spirit is very open to treatment while their mind may not be. As in all cases, the treatment has to be rooted in spirit, and she treats young people at that level.
For what it’s worth I’ll offer this too: I had a long history of Toyohari practice prior to studying with Jeffrey and Ann and I’ve used non-insertive needling with kids to do 8X, Divergents etc and I think it absolutely works.
Another trick with inserted needles is to let the kids vibrate the needle themselves. I will do this by holding the tip of a needle between two fingers and letting them pluck and flick the needle handle to watch it vibrate, and so they can get a sense of how hard they can and can not flick it. Then once I insert a needle, I let them gently flick and/or pluck it while it’s inserted. It’s just a trick but a lot of kids go for it, and I think there’s value in the fact that they are vibrating the needle themselves as well as you. I’m sure there’s a reason I shouldn’t do this, but I do. 😉
-Sean
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