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    Antoine Mulpas
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    Hello everyone,

    I have a patient, woman 49, with severe insomnia. Everything started 5 years ago when her daughter was in high school and has several issues there (harassment etc..). After she had a burn out and developed breast cancer. She is now fine with the cancer which was managed under W.M treatment. She then started to have severe difficulty to fall asleep. She can stare at the clock for hours, and when she falls asleep she wakes up often. It is only from last year that her daughter is finally getting on with her life, and has found what she wants to do and she’s is school to do so.
    But the insomnia is still present. I have treated her several times, and we got minor improvements. She had the need to go to sleep at time (which was not the case before), and felt more energised in the morning.

    The last time I saw her, I did a Yin Wei Mai treatment using KI-9, SP-15, LV-14. My intention was to help her go get over the triggering evenement of her daughter during school, and to tonify her Yin/Blood, calm and anchor her Shen.
    But the treatment didn’t bring the results expected. She called me to say that 2 days after the last treatment she started to feel weak, dizzy, no much energy and feeling restless. She had to take a week off from work. I asked about the sleep, and since she is off work she sleeps relatively well, from 11pm to 5am (which is exceptional from her).
    I wonder what’s going on ? How the Yin Wei Mai can have trigger this reaction ? Is it something which can be welcomed, as something moved and is trying to express ? Or is she really deficient and it tooks to much effort on her body to try to manufacture mediumship ?
    The pulse is often deep, weak, especially LV/HT position. The LU doesn’t diffuse well.

    Thank you for your insights,
    Antoine

    #5626
    Armin
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    Hi Antoine,

    Ya interesting case. The yin Wei would have been my choice too, for sure, to boost mediumship after all the stress and cancer treatment. I have had the experience when using the 8EV’s and people crashing a bit after, but it’s not really that they crash but more that the body is trying to, in a way, “force” them to slow down and take time off. This person’s reaction was a bit extreme but then again her condition is extreme, so really hard to say what happened.

    The way I assess a treatment result is by seeing if the person feels overall more positive and calm while not 100%. In this case, while her sleep miraculously improved, the rest of the package sounds a bit questionable, so I would say perhaps not the result we wanted.

    It’s also possible that there was a lurking pathogen her body was fighting off or even a deeper sinew pulse that you might have missed when taking the pulses, which then potentially went deeper with the yuan level treatment that you gave her. This has happened to me in the past. You think a person is weak and deficient in mediumship and you go to boost the system with a yin Wei or red mai and then it back fires even though their pulses didn’t show any tight superficial quality.

    I remember Ann talking about this in one her chats that sometimes for a very deficient person, the superficial level will be deeper than 1-3 beans because all the pulses are deeper. At least, this is what I remember her saying. I maybe wrong 🙂

    Given that I’m still not that good with pulses, nowadays when I use 8ev’s, I ask a lot of questions about the recent history to make sure there is not potential exterior pathogen lurking in the Wei level, like are they more tired than usual or more aversion to cold or any upper back neck tension!

    Also, you mentioned your “intention was to help her get over” her daughters traumatic experience. I would say we should keep our intention simple; maybe just boosting mediumship for now and once she is strong enough, she herself will work things out on the emotional level and if not, then you can address later with a luo treatment or something.

    Thanks for sharing.

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