Probing pulses

[Alina BARLOGEANU]

Hello everyone,

I’m going through Ann’s course on the pulses and I have reached the part with the probing pulses (I have only just started it). I find it absolutely fascinating that one can feel in the pulse the different functions of the organs. I am wandering about one thing though, how does one give the body the information that when one works on the LU for ex, one is looking to descend the qi or diffuse it or rectify it or move blood etc? Or does one “just” tonify the LU and the LU will naturally do what they are supposed to be doing?
This may be a very ignorant question on my part but I would really like to know how to apply all this amazing knowledge:) (PS: I’m not TCM trained)

Alina

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Alina,

I’m also new to probing pulse, and still relatively new to CCM so I’ll try my best.
You can do Qi Gong and the pulse as Ann says in the course. But if you want to use needles, I would use :
– CV-12 and ST-25 if you want to descend LU Qi. It is the beginning and descending branch of the LU channel, you needle it with intention (via ST-25 it connects to the KI via Dai Mai). You may also use LU-5, and the metal point on the KI channel : KI-7.
– to diffuse LU Qi, I would use LU-1, LU-7 or LU-8.
– to move Blood I would look at LU-3 or LU-4, the points above the He-Sea have a connection to Blood (think harmonisation of Blood when doing a Luo treatment). Even LU-7, as a Luo may have and impact on Blood. Remember Qi moves Blood.

I still get confused sometimes about how to apply treatment once you get the informations from the pulse, I guess it is a long road to get there ! 🙂
Hope that helps,
Antoine

[Alina BARLOGEANU]

Hello Antoine,

It does help!
Thank you for taking the time to answer, I really appreciate it. Your message was quite comforting:)
I see your reasoning behind most of the points. Do you use LU 5 bc it has some specific function related to the descension of qi?
Also Lu 1, 7, 8 for the diffusion, is it bc of the point names or specific functions?
I’ve trained in France in an acupuncture lineage transmitted by Charles Laville Merry, and we don’t really use these words:) (diffusion, rectification, invigoration, etc) which is why I’m a bit at a loss. I need to understand the reasoning behind the points, what theory is one referring to and what are we trying to do.
Do you know whether TCM or Classical Acupuncture associates these functions to specific points? is it something one just learns as such? or can one infer these functions?

Sorry for being a nuisance 🙂
Alina

[Antoine Mulpas]

Hello Alina,

For LU-5 you can think of it from the 5 elements theory, as it is the Water point on the LU channel thus having connection to the Kidneys. He-Sea points treat counterflow, so you may think in this way too (if Lung Qi cannot descend to the Kidneys, you may have asthma for instance). You may also find a resonance between the name and the Kidneys.
For diffusion, effusion it is quite the same as far as I understand it. The Lung is responsible for the circulation of Qi, of Wei Qi, and then you can call this action diffusion (moving from the interior to the exterior).
– LU-1 Zhong Fu : Middle Palace – you can translate as “things coming from the middle”, it may be more easy to understand. The middle here is the middle Jiao, the Stomach area. Wei Qi is produced from the turbid aspect of the thin fluids. So at LU-1 you have the connection between the Spleen channel to the Lung channel (SP-20 is just below). It may have been easily a Spleen point but they choose to give it to the Lung channel. As there is the connection from Spleen and Lung, you have something coming from the interior to the exterior, Tai Yin opens outwards.
– LU-7 Lie Que : you may think about it as a Luo point. Luo points connect the Ying and Wei level. So if you stimulate the points, you will move Qi to the exterior, therefore diffusing.
– LU-8 Jing Qu : it is the Metal point on the Lung channel, reinforcing the idea of one of the main function of the Lung to circulate Qi. Also as a Jing-River point, you think of it as releasing the chest, opening it (it treats cough, dyspnoea, chills and fever classicaly as a Jing-River).

For the terms like diffusion, rectification etc, you’ll find them associated to specific points yes. But it is more the idea behind the terms that is important.

I hope that helps you, if you have any questions I’ll try to answer them ! 🙂

Are you working in France ? I live near Paris. I have heared about Laville Merry but I don’t know much about him!
Cheers!
Antoine

[Alina BARLOGEANU]

Cher Antoine,

Sorry for the late reply, I had a very busy weekend and beginning of the week.
Thanks so much for your explanations! They are great, very clear. I really appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions.
Yes, I work in Paris:) 14e (mon cabinet) and Levallois (I work in a cancer center), and 13e (where I actually live:) ).
I’d love to connect with you! Perhaps you already had a chat with Amandine? It’s so nice to be in touch with fellow practitioners with common interests:)

All the best to you,
Alina
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[Antoine Mulpas]

Hi Alina,

It would be nice to have a chat one day yes! here my email : [email protected] and my phone number 06.32.94.46.62
A bientôt !
Antoine

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